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[calamitish]

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[calamitish]

Hey, I was the youngest attendant! [ whatever that means. ]

I've been busy in my own world until recently. This magic to traverse worlds is pretty new to me too.

[vivens]

Youngest attendant? I guess you don't look much older than myself.

[ sabo is going to want to know what that means. ]

And when you say you've been busy, does that not include reliving this timeloop with the rest of us..?

[calamitish]

I'm under two thousand.

[ he's olddddd. ]

Before that. None of you are from Ecumene. The time we've spent here is a fraction of my life and that includes the three hundred years I spent sleeping.

[vivens]

[ age is just used for perspective on things!!! ]

...sleeping?

[ he snorts. ]

First I hear about you being unpracticed in certain magic and now I'm learning about how you spent 15% of your life sleeping.

[calamitish]

Things like that happen when you're young and stupid.

[ even he can admit it if he frames it like such. ]

[vivens]

Does this mean that you've passed your rebellious stage of your life or have you not given it up?

[ it's okay whichever it is. people could say that sabo's never stopped... ]

[calamitish]

[ proudly: ]

Never given it up!

[vivens]

Then that'd make the two of us.

[ about being rebellious, he means. ]

[calamitish]

Hahaha, well, everyone has a little bit of a rebel inside of them. It's a pity that most of them don't express it more.

[vivens]

[ he chuckles. ]

Again, we agree on that. However, I think I make plenty use of my rebellious spirit.

[calamitish]

In the pursuit of evil?

[vivens]

Depends on your perspective, I suppose. I'm sure a lot of people think I'm an evil and dangerous person.

[ looks at his bounty. though the last part is true regardless. sabo is a dangerous person through and through. ]

[calamitish]

It's relative in most cases, but not in mine.

[vivens]

Oh?

You've committed to being the "bad guy" in every narrative?

[calamitish]

It's not really a commitment, it's just what I am.

[vivens]

[ HMMMMMM...

might be rich coming from him and all things considered but— ]

I wonder about that.

[calamitish]

[ laughing. ]

I was good once, I know the difference.

[vivens]

And will you tell me what changed?

[ the question of the hour. ]

[calamitish]

Most people don't take it too kindly when you try to kill them.

[ there is more to it than that, but me needing to check when this thread was alas. ]

[vivens]

[ :VOIDMEWCRY:

shakes the timeline and the series of events... the woes of backtagging lore stuff. though more tragically don't try to pull this on sabo for has criminal hands. there's got to be more to this because— ]

If it killing someone makes you a "bad person" then you're among good company. As I said before, I will do anything to ensure the freedom of people from their oppressors.

[calamitish]

Ahhh, well—maybe if there was someone like you 1700 years ago, it would have been different. But there wasn't and quite frankly, humans like you are rarer than some of those gemstones you're obsessed with. Most humans let their morals fall by the wayside for one reason or another.

That's part of what makes them fun too.

[ if it sounds contrary it is, but that's how he himself is. ]

[vivens]

[ huh.

now isn't that something? hmm. ]

And I suppose being here now means nothing?

[ sabo very well knows that it's nothing given how ish has been acting thus far. (unless..?) if he has stuck his heels into the ground then there's only so much that he can do about that. ]

I still haven't heard what makes you be an evil or a bad person. Surely there must have been more that you've done than kill people.

[ and trap people in a seemingly endless death loop. ]

[calamitish]

[ he laughs. ]

Okaaaay, let's see... if murder isn't bad then I guess manipulation doesn't count either? How about plotted the downfall of the Royal family and the eradication of a noble line? I guess familicide doesn't count here in this instance.

But you know, murder is usually considered a cardinal sin across all religions.

[vivens]

I don't approve of murder, however I accept that there comes a time where killing is necessary. So, I don't see much of a difference between the two of us if that's what we're working with.

[ should he really be proud of this? who's to say but you can't have a successful revolution without killing people or doing everything that ish has said here. ]

Obviously, I'm not a witch, but I'm a noble—former noble—that has made it their life mission to take down the ruling nobility and knowingly turn my world's situation on its head all for the sake of freeing people from oppression.

[ like sabo said, it's a matter of perspective. ]

[calamitish]

Interesting.

[ legitimately, since while this isn't the first time ish has encountered this view of the world, it is the first time it's been compared to how he operates. ]

Well I'll certainly never argue for the lives of nobility no matter how long I live. The nobles we know likely have different goals, but in the all worlds I've seen, they're always looking out for themselves at the expense of literally everyone and everything else.