[ ish wonders briefly, if this is how she felt before—
it's a curious thing. ]
I could mean it, but not in the way your heart cries out for. Though, it surprises me that you've found it rare. For every person who is needy, they'll always be someone who wants just as much.
( He won't deny that he's needy. A long body's for coiling and clinging, literally and metaphorically, )
Even Akira and I couldn't connect, in the end. No matter how much we wanted it. Because there are things about myself I won't compromise on - and there are things he couldn't.
A lot of people are self-conscious of that fact, so they'll pull back before they reach out . . . But I don't care for people who have nothing they won't compromise on. ( Someone who's so desperate they'll truly do anything. ) So I'm the one who pulls my hand away.
In fact, I think . . . I like people who won't compromise on anything.
So your taste, despite being voracious, is also rather picky? Or...you just grow bored if it's too easy. But on the other hand, someone who didn't meet you all the way, couldn't satisfy you fully either.
That really is a mess of an appetite!
[ sorry that he's just saying that and making his own assumptions which might not be exactly right. he still has to ask the proper question of what he traded for, but he's kind of just :mewsive:, just missing the whiskers and ears. ]
( Hwylryn doesn't mind - in fact, he seems pleased to hear Ish's thoughts on him (is there any juicier gossip than knowing how someone perceives you?). His previous refutation - where he spoke quite a bit more than he normally might - was rooted largely in the fact that he wanted something: to make a deal. And his own lack of clarity was preventing that. He did not course correct or refute the impression in the several exchanges before ... simply because he was curious to hear more of how he was perceived.
Ah, hubris.
Regardless. )
Well, even when I do meet someone truly to my tastes, they don't really last forever, anyway. Whether to old age, or bad luck . . . I end up right back where I started. I think I've spent more of my life searching for someone than being with those people ... given how long they last.
( Hwylryn seems a little surprised Ish returns to the topic - it makes sense once Ish asks it, because Hwylryn knows he explained Nothing, but he didn't think Ish thought much of it.
I forget if Hwylryn set down his drink or not but at some point he did (gaslighting) so now he's gonna munch on that pear while he thinks.
It's not like he has no reason, but the question of "why" is interesting. This isn't like Junior, where he can go down an endless list of endearing things he likes about him. It's like... hmmm... )
... I think you're someone I could've had a lot of fun with in a different situation.
( Like, actual fun. Ish knows his theatrics and dramatics, and guess what Hwy enjoys. )
Since, mmmm... I can't forgive you for harming the people I care for, and I was in the middle of something when you brought me here, but I don't know how much I mind what you've done to everyone else.
( Somehow, "I can't forgive you," and "but I enjoy you" still coexists. This is, after all, how he felt for Snow and White - and how his feelings have settled toward Akira and Akira's friends. I like you. I can't forgive you. It's a little maddening to live with.
In any case - when one later sees him be chill about Shiv's death, it might suggest, yeah, he really doesn't mind that much. Some have suggested they cared about a different set of relationships in past loops(?), but the idea is too abstract and hypothetical for Hwylryn to worry over it or lay it at Ish's feet. )
So, there's that. As for the rest...
( He chews on pear, studying Ish... )
I think you're interesting. I guess... I think you project one thing and you don't want people to see what else there is. Is it something tender and raw? Is it something ugly and personal? I don't know if I'll be the one who gets to see it, but I like talking to you, and I like seeing other people talk to you. Because sometimes I get to see bits and pieces of what you seem reluctant to show.
( And then, with equal gravity, he continues: )
Plus, you taught me to play cards. Oh, and it's funny to see you get riled up when I find a way to tease you. And I like how you don't get why I do things, but you let me do them and you try to understand them anyway.
( He smiles. )
I think we're doing the same thing, in a way. Right? We both don't get the other person. So we're wondering what makes them tick. I like that I don't understand you, so I always have something to wonder about. Isn't that better than being bored? ... I think that's more than enough reason to like something.
[ ish generally isn't good at schooling his expression, but he does keep his fairly neutral throughout. there might be a slight huff at projection, but it's much more minor than you might expect. ]
Well—if I was made for anything, it was to understand humans. You're not human, so it makes sense that I don't understand you. But it still digs at me, you know? Birds will always try to fly towards the sky, frogs will always return to the pond at one point or another.
You remind me more of an animal than a human, and trust me, that's a compliment. [ he hadn't been sure until this conversation, but now he's just coded Hwylryn as a critter. ]
And boredom is terrible. Luckily, I've always been good at creating a mood wherever I go, as long as there's someone around for me to play with.
[ he takes a final sip, finishing his drink. ]
If you want me to teach you more things ask, and if I'm in the right mood, I'll teach you. Just don't forget that I'm not human either.
[ not surprisingly, he is sir not addressing any part that has to do with the bits and pieces of himself. but maybe the rest of this answer says enough. ]
( Hwy seems to preen when Ish says he certainly reads more like a creature than person - and, if he were still in his dragon form, he probably would be preening quite strikingly. He's proud of what he is - strange and incomprehensible though it may be, especially for someone perhaps created to dissect the hearts of humanity. )
Are you in the right mood right now?
( If you give a Hwyl a cookie... he says this half-jokingly, but, still - not entirely in jest.
He doesn't mind that Ish sidesteps this thing, the way Ish has sidestepped these other things. When there are things he wants to know, he will push, as he pushed forward with that deal - but these other things can come and go with the tide. If Hwyl is meant to know them, he'll uncover them.
More than anything, he loves to play. So they have these things in common. )
. . . I did wonder why your magic felt so warm. ( He wouldn't say Ish feels "warm" right now, per se - but . . . hmmm . . . It makes him surprising. Layered? Like this faucet of him, different than Hwyl expected. ) I think if you were as straightforward as a human, it wouldn't be so fun to come over and play.
( Ah, the Goddess, is it... He has to wonder how Ish ended up the way he is when his mother-creator was rich with sunshine. (Where's the American sitcom of Ish's family with Ish as the weird goth child,) (ykw i'll just assume that's what his canon is)
But that's interesting, too. )
I'm only ever honest. ( But he seems quite happy Ish accepts it, this time around. ) What's a fun game to play? The castle has card games, board games, that table with the balls on it . . .
( Pool, he means. Not that he knows what it's called. Whatever Ish thinks might be fun for two people who aren't really human, he'd be happy to learn. )
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it's a curious thing. ]
I could mean it, but not in the way your heart cries out for. Though, it surprises me that you've found it rare. For every person who is needy, they'll always be someone who wants just as much.
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( He won't deny that he's needy. A long body's for coiling and clinging, literally and metaphorically, )
Even Akira and I couldn't connect, in the end. No matter how much we wanted it. Because there are things about myself I won't compromise on - and there are things he couldn't.
A lot of people are self-conscious of that fact, so they'll pull back before they reach out . . . But I don't care for people who have nothing they won't compromise on. ( Someone who's so desperate they'll truly do anything. ) So I'm the one who pulls my hand away.
In fact, I think . . . I like people who won't compromise on anything.
( doomed for failure... )
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That really is a mess of an appetite!
[ sorry that he's just saying that and making his own assumptions which might not be exactly right. he still has to ask the proper question of what he traded for, but he's kind of just :mewsive:, just missing the whiskers and ears. ]
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( Hwylryn doesn't mind - in fact, he seems pleased to hear Ish's thoughts on him (is there any juicier gossip than knowing how someone perceives you?). His previous refutation - where he spoke quite a bit more than he normally might - was rooted largely in the fact that he wanted something: to make a deal. And his own lack of clarity was preventing that. He did not course correct or refute the impression in the several exchanges before ... simply because he was curious to hear more of how he was perceived.
Ah, hubris.
Regardless. )
Well, even when I do meet someone truly to my tastes, they don't really last forever, anyway. Whether to old age, or bad luck . . . I end up right back where I started. I think I've spent more of my life searching for someone than being with those people ... given how long they last.
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[ he dips back into the drink again. ]
Though this is just making me feel like I'm playing at cupid instead of being a Witch. So, why do you like me? Beyond just "because".
[ he had asked before, but he hadn't understood that answer cleanly enough. ]
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I forget if Hwylryn set down his drink or not but at some point he did (gaslighting) so now he's gonna munch on that pear while he thinks.
It's not like he has no reason, but the question of "why" is interesting. This isn't like Junior, where he can go down an endless list of endearing things he likes about him. It's like... hmmm... )
... I think you're someone I could've had a lot of fun with in a different situation.
( Like, actual fun. Ish knows his theatrics and dramatics, and guess what Hwy enjoys. )
Since, mmmm... I can't forgive you for harming the people I care for, and I was in the middle of something when you brought me here, but I don't know how much I mind what you've done to everyone else.
( Somehow, "I can't forgive you," and "but I enjoy you" still coexists. This is, after all, how he felt for Snow and White - and how his feelings have settled toward Akira and Akira's friends. I like you. I can't forgive you. It's a little maddening to live with.
In any case - when one later sees him be chill about Shiv's death, it might suggest, yeah, he really doesn't mind that much. Some have suggested they cared about a different set of relationships in past loops(?), but the idea is too abstract and hypothetical for Hwylryn to worry over it or lay it at Ish's feet. )
So, there's that. As for the rest...
( He chews on pear, studying Ish... )
I think you're interesting. I guess... I think you project one thing and you don't want people to see what else there is. Is it something tender and raw? Is it something ugly and personal? I don't know if I'll be the one who gets to see it, but I like talking to you, and I like seeing other people talk to you. Because sometimes I get to see bits and pieces of what you seem reluctant to show.
( And then, with equal gravity, he continues: )
Plus, you taught me to play cards. Oh, and it's funny to see you get riled up when I find a way to tease you. And I like how you don't get why I do things, but you let me do them and you try to understand them anyway.
( He smiles. )
I think we're doing the same thing, in a way. Right? We both don't get the other person. So we're wondering what makes them tick. I like that I don't understand you, so I always have something to wonder about. Isn't that better than being bored? ... I think that's more than enough reason to like something.
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Well—if I was made for anything, it was to understand humans. You're not human, so it makes sense that I don't understand you. But it still digs at me, you know? Birds will always try to fly towards the sky, frogs will always return to the pond at one point or another.
You remind me more of an animal than a human, and trust me, that's a compliment. [ he hadn't been sure until this conversation, but now he's just coded Hwylryn as a critter. ]
And boredom is terrible. Luckily, I've always been good at creating a mood wherever I go, as long as there's someone around for me to play with.
[ he takes a final sip, finishing his drink. ]
If you want me to teach you more things ask, and if I'm in the right mood, I'll teach you. Just don't forget that I'm not human either.
[ not surprisingly, he is sir not addressing any part that has to do with the bits and pieces of himself. but maybe the rest of this answer says enough. ]
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Are you in the right mood right now?
( If you give a Hwyl a cookie... he says this half-jokingly, but, still - not entirely in jest.
He doesn't mind that Ish sidesteps this thing, the way Ish has sidestepped these other things. When there are things he wants to know, he will push, as he pushed forward with that deal - but these other things can come and go with the tide. If Hwyl is meant to know them, he'll uncover them.
More than anything, he loves to play. So they have these things in common. )
. . . I did wonder why your magic felt so warm. ( He wouldn't say Ish feels "warm" right now, per se - but . . . hmmm . . . It makes him surprising. Layered? Like this faucet of him, different than Hwyl expected. ) I think if you were as straightforward as a human, it wouldn't be so fun to come over and play.
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...my magics warm because of it's origin, but thanks. Thanks for the other compliment too.
[ he winks, because unlike all the other compliments hwylryn has pushed at him before, this one he can accept wholeheartedly. ]
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But that's interesting, too. )
I'm only ever honest. ( But he seems quite happy Ish accepts it, this time around. ) What's a fun game to play? The castle has card games, board games, that table with the balls on it . . .
( Pool, he means. Not that he knows what it's called. Whatever Ish thinks might be fun for two people who aren't really human, he'd be happy to learn. )
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[ tilting his head. ]
Did you want to learn now?
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If you want to teach me now.
( Unhelpful answer. )
But I don't mind staying to talk a little more before you teach me, either. I'm having fun either way.
( both options can lead to handwave but!! )
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[ offering his hand, the bright red one. ]
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Maybe I was just trying to steal more of your time.
( As he reaches out, and takes his hand. )